Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 10:52:45 -0700
From: tavares@mac.com ("C. D. Tavares")
Subject: Re: [lpaz-discuss] [Fwd: [TUGAnnounce] Draft Bill is ready]
To: lpaz-discuss@yahoogroups.com
Cc: alan@bloomfieldpress.com (Alan Korwin)
Reply-To: lpaz-discuss@yahoogroups.com


At 10:30 AM -0700 12/22/01, John Wilde wrote:
>     Now this is something that should wrankle the panties of the politico's.
> I could support this.  You don't want guns in your place, fine, you accept
> liability if an armed patron could have put a stop to the unlawful conduct.

Seems contrary to the libertarian view of property rights.

Now, I could easily see a law such as this for government property, but are
we ready to play the old statist game of "every place of business is a
public accommodation?"

This would create some gray areas -- e.g., does a restaurant which posts
"no guns" do so because they don't like guns, or because they serve alcohol
and the state forces them to do so?  A possible escape clause: if the sign
quotes (correctly!) some ARS or ordinance that forbids the owner from
permitting carry on that private property, the business is immune and the
defendant becomes the government.

>> A.  Any person, organization or entity, or any agency of government that
>> creates a gun-free zone

>> mean any building, place, area, curtilage, or in or upon any conveyance
>> where a person's right or ability to possess firearms is infringed,
>> restricted or diminished in any way by statute, policy, rule,
>> regulation, ordinance, utterance or posted signs.

-- 
Tavares@alum.mit.edu  |  http://alum.mit.edu/www/tavares   |  RKBA!


"You know engineers -- they'll argue about anything."
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